GTA IV usurps Ocarina of Time
by David Hinkle 
{ Apr 30th 2008 at 11:15AM }
The game that everyone seems to be nutty about, Grand Theft Auto IV (or GTA IV, as most seem to be calling it), has now passed Ocarina and become the #1 rated game of all time on the site. While the game is very new (it came out yesterday), many reviews still need to come in, so we're hoping that once they do, Ocarina will be back where it belongs. Until then, sharpen those pitchforks and light your torches, it's time to become an unruly mob.
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travis @ Apr 30th 2008 11:29AM
zelda games are way better than the stupid GTA games.
SoshiKitai @ Apr 30th 2008 11:29AM
.........
...........WHAT?! XD AHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAA!!!
HAHAHA~ OMG! No wait... *cough*
Excuse me.
... *ahem* I'm a GTA fan, but for one to be #1 rated game seems so absurd to me!
I'll admit, they have great scripts and ideas. But I would never think they'd be perfect enough to be #1.
... oh, and I'm picking up my special edition copy of GTAIV today... *cough*
...... please don't stone me.
Tristan @ Apr 30th 2008 12:22PM
You have to tell me how it is!!!!
Lars @ May 1st 2008 12:38PM
*ahem* You should really get your throat checked out. *cough* Were you dictating your post? *wheeze*
adolson @ Apr 30th 2008 11:30AM
I don't normally like GTA games, but I really like GTAIV. That being said, it definitely isn't the best game of all time, and I don't see how IGN can actually justify giving it straight 10.0/10.0. It's pretty stupid, really, to give it perfect when it clearly is not. It makes me wonder if they are rating it based on the opening cinematic, or the actual game. Or maybe when you hit the mid-way point of the game, it changes and the camera issues get fixed and climbing ladders gets easier and textures stop popping, and foliage stops clipping, and the characters figure out how to actually walk around a car and get in without spending a second or two trying to run through the frontend of the car... Whatever, the game is good, but not perfect. However, I'm also of the opinion that Ocarina of Time was overrated.
Avoli @ Apr 30th 2008 2:21PM
IGN was given by Rockstar 'exclusive' right to do the first review. That just smells bad when said aloud.
Would OoT be over rated if it were remade to todays technology?
adolson @ Apr 30th 2008 4:56PM
I thought it was remade with today's technology, and they renamed it to Twilight Princess. :P
Avoli @ Apr 30th 2008 5:51PM
Touche!
IMO, TP is about 1/2 the game that OoT is.
samfish @ Apr 30th 2008 11:34AM
This just continues the pattern we've seen in the last few years of awarding games perfect scores WAY too easily.
phenylketonurics @ Apr 30th 2008 11:34AM
Christ, "#1 rated game of all time..."?? LAME. Give it a couple weeks kids, geez.
eugaet @ Apr 30th 2008 11:39AM
I'm not too troubled by it. I tend to give much more weight to the reader score than the critic score. Ocarina holds a 90% average with over 3200 votes? Granted GTAIV only had 32 votes when I checked, but it was at 77%. We'll see what the average looks like when more readers submit their score.
IGLAW @ Apr 30th 2008 2:05PM
True, but typically the reader score section is plagued with fanboys voting 1s and 2s without having even played the game. This is true for GTA IV as it is for OoT.
BrokenMonkey @ Apr 30th 2008 2:15PM
Yeah, on Metacritic GTA IV had hundreds of votes putting it around an 8, way before the game was even released!
jessie @ Jun 24th 2008 9:55AM
how old r u
goboColossus @ Apr 30th 2008 11:49AM
Oh mah gosh!
And to think, all this time I've been troubled by the fact that Chrono Trigger, Super Metroid, Shadow of the Colossus, Super Mario RPG, and Mother 2 are nowhere to be found near the number one spot.
Seriously, it's not like OoT is the best game of all time (unless you believe it to be so). This list is based on mainstream press opinion, who gives a flying fuck. It's quite easy to get over if it truly offends you, just never ever type in said websites URL.
Wah.
Ryan Hartman @ Apr 30th 2008 11:53AM
I fall on the other end when it comes to reader votes. When I checked on Sunday. Sunday mind you ... 2 days before the game came out ... there were 24 votes and a rating of low 70.
So, ya know, there's that.
Fanboys hating on it because they don't like the franchise (or jealous that it isn't on thier system) or fanboys voting it beyond it's merit without playing it (because they liked the other ones and really like the franchise) ... either way I trust reader reviews as much as I trust cancer. And I don't trust cancer at all. Not anymore.
GTA is a fun enough game, sure but I think Ocarina of Time is the best game I've ever played for my money. I took issue with Galaxy being up there as well when it was on top for that week too though. That game was good enough I guess, but it's not as timeless as Ocarina. Not even close. That was like a 90/100, it didn't live up to the hype for me.
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THEGANON @ Apr 30th 2008 2:07PM
Rabble has two b's.
TheOverlord#2 can has Mario Karts?(MK:2578-3517-9859) @ Apr 30th 2008 3:02PM
COPY AND PASTE FTW!
acefondu @ Apr 30th 2008 11:56AM
A game riddled with bugs and glitches such as GTA IV does not deserve this kind of praise. This is dreadful, DREADFUL!
Jeff @ Apr 30th 2008 11:59AM
Not that I'm defending GTA IV on being the number one game but what the hell are you talking about? Ocarina Of Time was filled to the brim with glitches! Some allowed you to beat the game completely as a kid!
acefondu @ Apr 30th 2008 1:11PM
The bugs in Ocarina didn't disable you from playing the game. And the glitches in Ocarina you speak of are only available through Gameshark so get your facts straight.
deaftly @ Apr 30th 2008 12:01PM
Well at least we can play this on our Wii's..... oh wait.
samfish @ Apr 30th 2008 12:10PM
With graphics like those, though, who could tell?
Nigeria - MK: 0430-8491-9123 @ Apr 30th 2008 12:40PM
GTA is so overrated. I can't believe all the hype this game has got. The beautiful hyperbole it's received is so flattering. The game is no different to the previous incarnations. In two/three weeks people are going to start they're bored with it.
That's not to say it's no good. It's polished repetition.
Britton @ Apr 30th 2008 12:49PM
I'm glad to see that you've played and analyzed the latest Grand Theft Auto installment, Nigeria. Good to see it described with such accuracy.
Nigeria - MK: 0430-8491-9123 @ Apr 30th 2008 1:01PM
I did good, didn't I.
My brother is buying a Xbox for this game so I'll have time to play this again.
But I have an aversion to this genre, so I don't think playing this game again will change my mind.
CJLopez @ Apr 30th 2008 2:33PM
GTAIV = Halo 3
Got the picture????
TheOverlord#2 can has Mario Karts?(MK:2578-3517-9859) @ Apr 30th 2008 3:09PM
Samfish is right, the graphics on GTA IV are not as good as some other PS3/360 games. It could definitely be put on Wii.
I wish it would be put on Wii like Bully so I could actually try this(THE #1 GAME IN TWO DAYS!! LoZ has been out for 10 years??? Psh...) game out.
My $50 is waiting for you Rockstar.
(Though my Mom would never approve...)
Duscrom @ Apr 30th 2008 3:22PM
GTA4 is no more overrated then Super Mario Galaxy.
IF GTA4 = Previous game + Polish, and better graphics.
then Mario Galaxy = Previous game + Polish and better graphics.
BDR @ May 1st 2008 8:03AM
I don't think it's the graphics that stop GTA 4 coming to Wii, I just don't think that the hardware can handle such a huge interactive environment.
I'm not really a fan of the series, I owned GTA 3 and was pretty impressed. My cousin owned Vice City and I thought it was suspiciously similar, and after playing San Andreas i've kinda given up. The franchise really has no room for expansion, but it probably doesn't have to expand considering the vast horde of underage males who are willing to pay for a fresh coat of paint on their hooker-killing, drug-dealing action. Somehow all of the games still seem to get acclaim, i don't understand. This game does not, and cannot, compare to Ocarina of Time.
Lars @ May 1st 2008 1:04PM
@Duscrom
You got a point. I fell into the trap of SMG reviews. All those 10's couldn't be wrong, right? Wrong! SMG might be fun for an 8-year-old but I found it lacking spirit, originality, challenge, etc.
James @ May 1st 2008 3:15PM
@Lars: I can always tell a quitter! If you didn't like SMG, it's because you didn't stick with it. Play through to ~80 stars, and tell me there's no challenge. A lot of the earlier levels are a cakewalk, but getting the last ~10-25 stars can really take time and effort. The difficulty curve may take a long time to ramp up, but then it takes off like a rocket.
Chadyasotora @ May 12th 2008 2:02PM
@lars: lacking spirit and originality!? Thats what the game had a surplus of!
Roto13 @ Apr 30th 2008 12:02PM
Normally I don't really care about this kind of thing, but...
I loathe the idea of a game that's basically San Andreas only prettier and with less content, being considered the best game of all time compared to a game that completely reinvented the series, if not the genre.
Ghaleon @ Apr 30th 2008 12:13PM
These "best reviewed ever" things are so dumb, because it pretends like anyone actually has compiled review scores for games released before 1996 or so.
Orion @ Apr 30th 2008 12:26PM
*THIS* waste of a disk gets the best scores?
I'm sorry, but the game isn't even as good as it's previous incarnations. And seriously, how is a game that essentially is now a tired, simple, sandbox shooter the *BEST* of the industry. The story isn't even something to write home about.
Have reviewers never played Zelda?... Ico?... heck.. i'd even settle for Mario 64 over this...
Rockstar's GTA sells because of it's "maturity" appeal (or lack there of) and the ability to drive around recklessly and causing mayhem and distruction. Big wacka. I'm sorry, but while GTA III might have influenced many games (the whole sandbox idea), I would hardly call anything in the whole series *revolutionary*. Give me a break.
Do people honeslty get the same satisfaction playing GTA than beating an epic RPG? I honeslty can't see how that's possible. In this mentality, No More Heroes should be ranked the 5th best game in the world... geez..idiots.
Waffala @ Apr 30th 2008 1:00PM
GTA III caused a paradigm shift in action/adventure gaming, the open world sandbox was revolutionary at its time and has developed almost into a genre by its own right. Don't try to downplay that as not being a major development in gaming, because you could also say that Ocarina of Time is the same rehashed Zelda game we've seen since NES played in a prettier 3D environment, "hardly 'revolutionary'".
Not that I want to defend GTA IV or personally think it's one of the best games ever, especially after hearing it doesn't even run in full HD, but it's tried and true. Any fan of Nintendo is used to things not changing unless/until they have to, which is why all 3D Zelda games play the same, all 3D Mario games play the same, and every Mario Kart ever is the exact same game with new levels (I'm not getting into bikes, it's not really a big change).
Duscrom @ Apr 30th 2008 3:29PM
So.. again, not defending GTA4, or anything, I think people like the game, because.... well. it's..... oh shoot.. what's that word... Wii fanboys always throw it around like they own the term... oh yes...
FUN!
People have FUN doing whatever they want to, causing chaos, and having little to no major consequences.
IMHO, GTA4 isn't the bestest game ever, but my vote for bestest game ever isn't even on the top 10... (But thank god Soul Calibur is). But GTA4 is the best GTA game ever. It'll tide me over till Saint's Row 2.
Orion @ Apr 30th 2008 12:31PM
Actually this reminds me of the truck loads of praise Halo 3 got when it came out, even though it honestly is just a slightly upgraded bit of what they've made before.
Ah well, if I bought games that reviewers told me to buy I'd be the "hardcore" gamer with only Sony and M$ systems, would have skipped out on most Nintendo consoles and would never have owned a sega saturn and loved it. Let them say what they want, I'm content with my own game buying decisions.
TheOverlord#2 can has Mario Karts?(MK:2578-3517-9859) @ Apr 30th 2008 3:14PM
Games like Halo 3 and GTA IV should be reviewed by people who haven't played the series before.
Everyone loved Halo 3 but Yahtzee called it a competent shooter that wasn't half as good as some other FPS's.
deaftly @ May 1st 2008 10:21AM
Automatic Fail for using "M$", wasn't clever 10 years ago and sure as hell isn't clever now.
Orion @ May 1st 2008 10:32AM
Automatic fail for not realizing it is only to cut down on typing time. Who wants to type out Microsoft 9 thousand times. When I type Ninty, it isn't because I'm giving it a nickname, just that it's easier to type.
Grow up and take a chill pill. Yeesh, it's as if I said your mother was a bitch or something.
deaftly @ May 1st 2008 1:00PM
I must have bought my keyboard from the moon or something because I seem to have an "S" key on mine.
exolstice @ Apr 30th 2008 1:05PM
It's all a matter of opinion really, but I think GTA IV is the new best game of all time. OoT was never near the top for me. I think my second favorite would probably be Doom for PC or maybe SMB3. Tetris would also be somewhere near the top.
Waffala @ Apr 30th 2008 1:14PM
Tetris will always be the best game ever in my heart.
Lars @ May 1st 2008 12:38PM
The original Zelda beats OoT.
Emily @ Apr 30th 2008 12:51PM
Now, I love the GTA series, but this game is not close to perfect, and certainly not Ocarina of Time quality. I've been playing for the past few days and have already had issues with it.
First of all, the game is way WAY too dark. I adjusted the brightness and contrast settings, but now my eyes starts hurting after looking at the game for too long. Another thing is I can never see what's written on the cell phone (text messages). I really don't like the new control settings using the trigger buttons either; I like the old control scheme. Also I have volume problems with the game, but that might not be the game's fault.
A game with any kind of these technical issues should never be rated a 10. Ever.
Waffala @ Apr 30th 2008 1:02PM
And OoT didn't have technical issues?
CJLopez @ Apr 30th 2008 2:50PM
Well, it did have it issues, but not one that didn't let you save, or freezing up, or not running on certain console (the PS3 60gb has some issues, a patch is on the work) and they were not that well known as the GTAIV are now, because they started to appear 3 or 4 months after its release date, not 1 or 2 hours after been released