Pokemon cheaters banned
A primary concern of Pokemon Diamond/Pearl (or, at least, that of this blogger) is the incredibly rampant cheating. In the past, use of an Action Replay wasn't a horrible offense ... your team would be uber, and a couple of your personal friends might be a bit ticked, but that was all.These days, in the era of Wi-Fi, ridiculously impossible trades litter the GTS. What, you don't have a Level 100 shiny Palkia? Well, hmph, you can't have my Level 7 Munchlax, then. For honest players, or those that don't have access to hacking tools, such Pokemon would take days to train up and impossible luck/determination for one with shiny status. That's why we're happy that Nintendo is cracking down on some Action Replay users, specifically ones using the "All 493 Pokemon," "All Shiny," and "National-Dex" cheats. They will henceforth be banned from online barter.
Feel free to start a flamewar regarding the justification of cheating, by the way. We're pyros.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
ConstyXIV @ Jun 15th 2007 11:02AM
I say, go right ahead and make use of the BanHammer. Though I wonder what happens if an average person comes into contact with a "tainted" Pokemon. I got a Lv100 Graveler(Golem) via GTS that I am mildly suspicios of (though it claims to have come from Hoenn)
ConstyXIV @ Jun 15th 2007 11:10AM
I say, go right ahead and make use of the BanHammer. Though I wonder what happens if an average person comes into contact with a "tainted" Pokemon. I got a Lv100 Graveler(Golem) via GTS that I am mildly suspicios of (though it claims to have come from Hoenn)
Brenden @ Jun 15th 2007 11:20AM
I call bullshit. If you track back to the original "source" all you see is some forum member named "floyd" making wild assumptions based of his friends at school. For instance, "A big rumor is that Nintendo released these codes to Gamestops to catch people that cheat so they arn't on online anymore."
http://www.wii60.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14815
Ren @ Jun 15th 2007 11:26AM
Oh dear, this won't affect people who got hacked pokemon from other people will it?
Because I'm expecting to recieve a pidgey that knows explosion/guillotine pretty soon.
Crass @ Jun 15th 2007 12:12PM
Lol if you're friend code gets blocked by nintendo its really easy to get a new one and get back online (just deleted the .sav file on the cartridge, duh!. The friend code isnt hard wired to the card or anything, if you dont belive me delete the data on your mario kart or whatever and check the FC, it will be diffrent. This is ame with MPH cheaters, or "hackers" as newbs around here call it)
Anyways I really am quite shocked you guys havent discussed pokesav, http://ds-scene.net/forum/forum.php?topic=2956 found there, and I am not quite sure if it works with the AR or not, I think you need to run it through a sav converter cause the AR makes .duc files, and pokesav takes, you guessed it, sav files. Anyways if you dont like cheating, THEN DONT ADD THOES PEOPLE TO YOURE FRIEND LIST. Simple enough eh?
Mr Khan @ Jun 15th 2007 12:22PM
Easily avoided. Just swap your DS with your friends
Friend Codes are made through a combination of identifiers from the cartridge and the DS itself
different DS = half different friend code
And i would think they would be able to tell who was cheating just by tracking the modded code that's streaming across the internet, not by arbitrarily saying "ooh, lvl 100 Shiny Lopunny, must be hacked. ban."
ConstyXIV @ Jun 15th 2007 12:55PM
@5 Crass:
We did discuss Pokesav http://nintendo.joystiq.com/2007/06/11/my-pokemon-saves-let-me-hack-them/
Also, I have a good feeling the ban is by MAC address, so that DS couldn't get back online
ConstyXIV @ Jun 15th 2007 12:56PM
Addendum to #7:
People can also upload hacked Pokemons to GTS, and there's no easy way to tell.
Tweak @ Jun 15th 2007 1:39PM
@7 - ConstyXIV
"We"? So when did you join the DSFanBoy Family?
Anyways...
I'm sure they can track anything through the GTS even if it takes a billion lines of text to go through on their end. I'm sure our Trainer IDs are linked to both our MAC Address and Friend Code. Not to mention the Nintendo WFC Connection ID (I know, I said Connection twice), that you create when you first log on to Nintendo WFC and is Perma-Saved in the DS's Firmware.
ConstyXIV @ Jun 15th 2007 4:13PM
@9 Tweak: we as in "everyone who reads this site"
Banana Kid @ Jun 15th 2007 8:14PM
I have used the shiny code here and there, but just out of curiosity, really. I wondered what a shiny Pikachu or Lucario would look like. I have yet to trade one over WiFi, and I don't plan to.
I do use an Action Replay for some minor things like that--getting the event items for the event Pokemon, for example. I don't think that's too much of an offense, and I should be able to keep trading.
Plastic Rat @ Jun 16th 2007 1:09AM
Geez, it's just amazing how anything involving online will be ruined in a few short weeks by cheaters.
People just really suck I guess.
Ethan Duffy @ Jun 16th 2007 7:18AM
I got a pikachu by cheating (felt a void after pokemon yellow) however, I think I didn't fill a box in or something because it won't do a darn thing I say.
Luke @ Jun 16th 2007 11:18AM
I'm banned myself. But the weird part is that I'm only banned from GTS, not online multiplayer.
Matdredalia @ Jun 16th 2007 2:21PM
I, for one, am grateful for this, specifically where battling is concerned. I play legitimately, and I'd rather not have my face stomped in by 6 Lvl. 100 Shinies.
The only thing that worries me is that I recieved a hacked Pokemon from someone, and I'm worried that might result in being banned. Hopefully, you only have to worry about that if you're trying to post them on the GTS. Other than that, ban away.
When it affects oters in Online Play, yeah, some cheats have to be taken care of.
Sam @ Jun 19th 2007 4:58PM
@9 Actually its really very easy to change your trainer ID w/ pokesav. No its not linked to our MAC address/friend code, and NO it doesn't change the firmware. A game cannot changethe firmware of the cnsole. HA! That would be like a game dvd changing your game console's firmware. Just...no. It doesn't work like that. n00b.
Alastair @ Jun 22nd 2007 11:53PM
Nintendo aren't banning players, at least I haven't heard of anyone being banned yet. It's just if you try to upload like a lvl 5 Dialga, the game just doesn't let you upload it.
Calcium @ Jun 27th 2007 7:49PM
I never use the GTS in the first place - I hate it.
Okay, that's not true, I just hate most people who use it. Like, the other day, I searched for a Drifloon (because I'm too lazy to catch it myself) and the only person offering one at that point was some stupid moron person who wanted a level 9 or under Monferno in exchange.
leon @ Jul 6th 2007 12:36PM
@6 Mr Khan:
Um, no. You may have a different Mac address from a DS, but your friend code remains the same until you delete your file. So you'd still be banned.
Richard Bru @ Jul 8th 2007 12:56AM
Number 1) Its a known fact Nintendo do not have admin controlls over online ds players... how exactly do they ban players without these?
Number 2) Players have the choice on who they battle and trade with... If the player is unhappy playing and/or trading with a cheater they have the decision to simply do neither of them with the cheater.
Number 3) Im not a cheater, I have 3 shiny pokemon caught with alot of effort, Im merely looking at the facts and trying my best to put these pathetic rumours to rest.
Regards
Richard
Anser @ Jul 18th 2007 2:14PM
I think that it's a good idea to stop the cheating, but I'm a bit worried because someone traded me a level 100 Garchomp and some other pokemon that I'm going to have on my team and am going to use at an event coming up.
Taisa @ Jul 21st 2007 8:53PM
...ok hurray for Nintendo for taking action but.
specifically ones using the "All 493 Pokemon," "All Shiny," and "National-Dex" cheats.
#1. What's having all 493 Pokemon going to do battle-wise?
#2. Having shiny pokemon DOES not mean the pokemon is better.
#3. omg, I completed the National Dex, that means I can OHKO people.
Nintendo fails when it comes to banning the RIGHT codes. None of those codes will really effect the outcome of battles. What about.
Banning Altering Stats, Abilities, Learn any Moves codes? In my opinion, those are the codes they should be paying attention to, not those useless codes.
Daltonlaffs @ Aug 5th 2007 6:59PM
As a hacker, here are some tech comments on the issue:
1) There is NO such thing as a 'Nintendo ban'. I HAVE hacked Pokemon on a ROM of Diamond, both of which not good, and uploaded them to the GTS using secret algorithms I've figured out to stop Nintendo from detecting them. I've even tried (and failed) to upload Pokemon WITHOUT this precaution, and all that happened was WFC didn't accept them. No bans.
2) As has been said, Nintendo has no 'admin console' over Wifi. Buffalo might, because they own WFC, but I haven't been banned, and I've tried cheating in several games. I don't normally do it, but there are occasions when I get bored...
3) I DO hate the idiots that make unfair crap... for example, Lv. 10 Wurmples for Lv. 100 Dialgas? HECK, NO. Just don't respond to them.
4) The online battles aren't affected -- Battle Revolution is immune to even my hacking. All the hacked Pokemon I tried to transfer over came up as 'Bad EGG', Nintendo's cheat dispatcher since Ruby and Sapphire. On top of that, I've seen no hacked Pokemon on BR myself, and I've been in around 40 battles by now. (For the record, I only lost 1!)
My 2 cents. Don't hate me.
dingumfCallofDuty @ Aug 10th 2007 1:22PM
I don't know why the fuc nintendo is taking Action Replay so seriously. Also all rumors are true because I, have been banned from GTS. Luckily I still had my trusty Pearl so traded my pokemon over there. Unfotunately, some how the GTS can detect Action Replay pokemon. If you don't believe me and say it's just a rumor, WHY DON'T YOU THAT TO MY SAY THAT TO MY DIAMOND! NOW EVERYTIME I JUST GET PAST THE GTS LADY, IT SAY'S "Communication Error" I'M LIKE WTF! I HAVENT EVEN CONNECTED TO WI FI YET!
I know that Action Replay ban IS 100% TRUE! If you still don't believe me I have one more thing to say. I have never used Action Replay on my Pearl and I can go on GTS, no prob. So WTF is this communication error? Can't nintendo say it in our faces and say,"You have been banned for being an Action Replay user?
Faltzer @ Aug 26th 2007 3:11PM
Personally, I don't think it's as bad. Cheaters are bad, yes, I must admit.
The whole point of game play is the "enjoyment", if you anti-cheaters have heard this word before. Who cares about hacked Pokemon anyway? It's JUST a game. In my opinion, Nintendo is making a big stink out of it for nothing. There will ALWAYS be a cheater that ruins the game for everybody, and that can't be changed by anybody, not even Nintendo.
Drake @ Aug 30th 2007 11:33AM
Alright now I can understand about the whole overload of the gts but come on what about people like me who use action replay to get pokemon back from when our game and our ds fryed not to mention the countless years I have held on to the old games with my prized pokemon on them and lo and behold boom there all gone because my game fryed and I cant spend the countless hours working on the older games. on another note I see time and time again people in the chat room asking around if there is any pokemon that they desire and they give it to them no stipualtions...I'm one of those people because I know how hard the market is out there and I think that if this thing is true then its stupid and as what the other guy said they realy are targeting the wrong codes. like the catch trainers pokemon...humm from what I hear that can be used aginst other players. now thats stealing and wrong kids dont try that at home..(not that you would be able to take the time to type in the rediculious amounts of 1234567890 and abcdef it takes for a code like that to work.well i'm done with my rant.....
ryan p. @ Oct 28th 2007 7:17PM
i think its total bullshit.why do they have to ban u for getting certin pokemon?its either action replay or go to the pokemon center in manhattan.im SURE not going to manhattan for a freakin'pokemon!also,if u do get banned,r u still able to go on wifi,but cant trade,or are u just not able to connect to wifi at all?