FFIV 3D remake compared with original 2D games
by Eric Caoili 
{ May 10th 2007 at 4:40PM }
Using the magazine scans that revealed Final Fantasy IV for the DS yesterday, NeoGAF forumer Speedpop cropped screenshots of the 3D remake right next to their respective scenes from the SNES and GBA releases. The juxtaposition gives you a good idea of how different Square Enix's updated game will look from the originals. Compare and contrast after the post break.
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Mr Khan @ May 10th 2007 6:05PM
Certainly not as drastic as FFIII
But still fairly awesome
Corie @ May 10th 2007 6:13PM
This is undoubtedly my favorite of the FF games and I'm looking forward to getting my hands on it in this incarnation. I only wish I'd known about it when I wrote of Final Fantasy IV last month (http://www.timeww.com/2007/04/24/final-fantasy-iv/)
Thanks for keeping us in the know about this and everything else.
whosmav @ May 10th 2007 9:01PM
I'll be waiting for a 3D FFVI nahmean
whosmav @ May 10th 2007 9:02PM
I bet they'll try for FF7 on the DS no doubt.
Kefka @ May 10th 2007 9:52PM
Dammit whosmav, did you have to bring up FFVII?
*puts up umbrella and waits for shower of fanboy arguments* :P
Hopefully they're still recovering from having the exact same discussion a few posts back...
FFIV is looking good. It's been a really long time since I played it, so I might have to add this to my list of games to get in the future...
FFXII:RW
FFCC:RoF
TLOZ:PH
FFIV DS...
Acronyms for everyone!
mastertard @ May 10th 2007 10:39PM
Err... I don't think there's a way in hell the original FF7 is coming to the DS unless it is significantly downgraded instead of upgraded... would you want that? A 3 CD game (about 2 GB) fit onto a game card (up to 128 MB I think). That's around 6-7% -- let's be generous and say a 256 MB size limit and it's still about 13%.
JC Fletcher @ May 10th 2007 11:19PM
The 2d looks so much better.
Jason @ May 11th 2007 2:08AM
From the digging into this game that I've done today, I am quite impressed. Can't wait to see more.
Jason
http://www.nintendoko.com
The correct @ May 11th 2007 3:15AM
Actually mastertard, DS game catridges can be up to 1gig. They just haven't used them yet.
tom_cochrane @ May 11th 2007 8:19AM
*gasp*
Would they be willing to use... 2 cartridges??
Richard @ May 11th 2007 9:05AM
You can't compare the 2gb size directly. They shouldn't need 2gb worth of data for a conversion to DS, the DS game is made for a tiny screen not a full size TV or monitor so the textures don't need as much detail or high resolution.
ubermateo @ May 11th 2007 9:58AM
FF7 on DS...
Lower Resolution textures and CG cutscenes.
It can be done!
CE @ May 11th 2007 1:47PM
in FFVII, most data in the CD are movies, I think. The game itself takes less than 500mb
TMoney @ May 11th 2007 1:15PM
FFVII would not be hard to put on the DS at all. These aren't ports after all. All they would have to do is use the FFIII engine and remake the game to work with it. There is no way that FFVII is long enough that this couldn't be done on a DS card.
Uejji @ May 11th 2007 1:48PM
FF7 is not 2GB. There is a *lot* of repeated content on all three discs. There were some experiments done a while back with disc swapping and there are a lot of FMVs that exist on all three discs. In fact the game *itself* is complete on all three discs. The only difference are story-specific FMVs (for example, the elevator ride FMV in Junon is on all three discs).
One alternative we saw work pretty well for Wing Commander Prophecy GBA was to recreate FMVs using the game engine. A lot of FMVs for FF7 could be redone in the game engine and save a lot of room.
joe @ May 11th 2007 2:06PM
If only final fantasy VII was worth remaking in the first place.
yutt @ May 11th 2007 2:56PM
I hope you realize that the size of modern a game is determined ENTIRELY by the graphical elements (textures, movies, etc.) Meaning... on a much smaller screen, it would take up much less space.
agoaj @ May 11th 2007 3:23PM
The team that put RE2 on the N64(64MB cart) developed their technology with the goal of porting FF7 to the 64. They would have done it but Squaresoft was not interested.
Anyways, RE2 was a 2 disc game that was fit onto N64 with extra content for half the DS cart's size. FF7 would be no problem, especially once you convert the FMV's to the DS's lower resolution.
We will see an FF7 port of DS within the next three years.
Infinity's End @ May 11th 2007 5:17PM
I can't wait to play the same game... YET AGAIN with the EXACT SAME crappy, monotonous, archaic gameplay! Random Battles and turn-based combat, Oh boy! You can put a pretty face on anything, but it's still going to be how it plays that matters the most.
Square lost all its creativity after Chrono Trigger...
Jay @ May 11th 2007 7:56PM
Oh man, they're releasing it again?! FFIV is my favorite Final Fantasy, and honestly every JRPG after it for a long time was built off of its skeleton, but I find []Enix is milking it a bit too much here. FFIII was cool because it was our first time to get it, and I was excited for it, however the switch to 3D didn't work very well because the game was slow as hell. Waiting a minute to get past a victory animation is not fun, especially on a portable. Past the amazing opening FMV, I was pretty let down by it overall.
The GBA version is as good as FFIV can get. This remake is not needed. Plus, 3D Octomammoth looks even more ridiculous than its 2D counterpart.
Kade Storm @ May 12th 2007 4:26PM
"Err... I don't think there's a way in hell the original FF7 is coming to the DS unless it is significantly downgraded instead of upgraded... would you want that? A 3 CD game (about 2 GB) fit onto a game card (up to 128 MB I think). That's around 6-7% -- let's be generous and say a 256 MB size limit and it's still about 13%." - Mastertard
Err.. Tard! Stop spewing crap?! Please! We can live without such BS, and it's cool for the environment.
- Videos can be compressed.
- Sound can be compressed.
- Non-battle visuals are actually worse than FFIII (Wake up, man!). In what moronic reality is the PSone supposed to be miles ahead of the DS? They're virtually on par!
- Cart size can be increased.
Case and point: Resident Evil DS.
Ugh. The **** people come up with to kill a very plausible buzz.