Are DS Fanboys better?
by Ed Stasick 
{ Sep 4th 2006 at 12:31PM }
Are DS Fanboys better? If all we had to go by was the video above, the answer to that question would be a resounding yes! In a post entitled "When being a fanboy goes terribly wrong...," the PSP Fanboy crew took a moment to poke fun at themselves. And I think they were a bit embarrassed for their kind. Of course, we're going to take advantage of that and have a good laugh at their expense. The video should have you either ROTFL or MABDTTSIOTV (my appendix burst due to the sheer ignorance of this video).
Now, what's required here is a proper rebuttal video. Here's the challenge: create a 2 to 5 minute video that talks to the virtues of the DS in a fun and humorous way. If you're up to the task, we'll "air" our favorites right here on DS Fanboy. You've got two weeks, starting... now!
Just don't embarrass us. Send your fanboy video link to fanboyvideo AT yahoo DOT com.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Tom @ Sep 4th 2006 2:01PM
I laughed so hard, I cried. That guy must be really proud of himself.
amandasaurus @ Sep 5th 2006 2:28AM
I'm going to go with MABDTTSIOTV. Console does not equal game. Also, my campus is covered with table tents and signs of that pink trash can (I think it's bulimic). Looking forward to seeing the DS versions. :P
Nushio @ Sep 4th 2006 2:15PM
Was that video really "Necissary"*
I might do one, just to prove him wrong :D
[sic] Go look at it at around the 3:00 min mark.
awesom-o @ Sep 4th 2006 2:20PM
i'd get right on it and create that rebuttal video, but i'm too busy playing with my DS...
The Joshler @ Sep 4th 2006 2:23PM
Well, the video doesn't work anymore, but you could just use this: http://www.joystiq.com/2006/02/24/load-time-from-hell-psp-game-takes-its-sweet-time/
Mallam @ Sep 4th 2006 2:34PM
In-game features: Settings.
I Lol'd.
Marc @ Sep 4th 2006 2:38PM
^ The video still works, just not for you. :)
And if I may quote someone over at PSP fanboy...
"he says psp has more features then contradicts himself when he says the ds has two screens and more isnt necessarily better... - shaf2k"
x cram x @ Sep 4th 2006 2:35PM
this is too easy LOL.. out of work video editor on the case
Darren Kwee @ Sep 4th 2006 2:40PM
I think the best feature of the PSP is that its fanboys are idiots who can't spell correctly.
GamingBurrito @ Sep 4th 2006 3:19PM
"Ha! Aside from the games and dual screen, all the DS has is a clock and a calendar! LOLOLOL!!1"
Great FSM, people, maybe that's why they call it a VIDEO GAME SYSTEM.
Gaye Mann @ Sep 4th 2006 4:44PM
DS fanboys
http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/01.jpg
PSP fanboys
http://www.cbulock.com/pics/Me_PSP.JPG
http://playstation.joystiq.com/2006/08/26/fight-psp-fanboy-engages-in-battle-of-wits/
'nuff said.
Cooler @ Sep 4th 2006 4:53PM
"Well, the video doesn't work anymore, but you could just use this"
Why? PSP fanboys are so embarassed? ^_^
jduke @ Sep 4th 2006 6:06PM
the psp must be so great that making a video is more entertaining than playing the games. instead of making a rebuttal, just play video games.
btw, was that gran turismo 4 i saw on that psp?
DSgirl @ Sep 4th 2006 5:41PM
Hahahaa, that was so funny, especially with that music! He made so many spelling mistakes. Oh man, the ds in the trash can is classic. He didn't actually list any good PSP games did he?
Also, in the summing up, he put features in PSP's list about 3 times... lol.
CJC @ Sep 4th 2006 5:50PM
The only good ignorant fanboy is a DEAD ignorant fanboy. This applies to all things.
Vincent @ Sep 5th 2006 5:50PM
"Mores doesn't nescassairly mean better"-from the movie yet..."PSP...more features..."? And "WTF? I though control pads were outdated?" -Hmm...and the PSP doesn't?
Stupid fan boys >_
Tom @ Sep 4th 2006 6:14PM
I made and entered a similar film recently just for the occasion. Tell me what yous guys think.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FXqjJrsIRw
Cephas @ Sep 6th 2006 6:35PM
Nice job, Tom! The Jeopardy "think music" is a nice touch.
Kyle 'Vrikis' Saric @ Sep 4th 2006 6:59PM
Ok. What the hell is this? I hate PSP fanboys! They think the PSP rules just because of graphics and in game features such as setting. The PSP is good, which I clearly state and I don't want war going on, but to say such disgusting things about a Console which has been truly amazing since the start is just wrong (oh and look at the sales charts).
The DS is a device which just amazed me EVERY time i bought a new game. I wont list why every time but ill say a few.
Mario Kart: Online features are amazing I love playing online and the community is great. Graphics are fun gameplay is just amazing. You can get straight into the game and just play a quick battle when your on a bus or train.
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Compared to the Ridge Racer game for psp: To get into the game it takes about 4 minutes with all the loading times and stuff. Oh, and then you gota play with that terible d-pad or the analogue stick which is 2D not 3D as in it only slides along.
Tetris: really fun to play on the go with good online features and lots of fun new tunes and good modes. a must have
Metroid prime pinball: so you just wana kill some time in school? play this its so fun
anyay enough said anyone who has a psp should burn it and post the video up on youtube... ohhhh.. that reminds me of smashmyipod.com they should have one! this'll be fun!
azusa- @ Sep 4th 2006 8:02PM
Uhh Kyle, I'm a DS and PSP owner.
First of all, terrible d-pad? I've had no problems whatsoever using it. The 'joystiq' was never meant to be 3D, otherwise it would be able to push inwards or pull outwards. It just provides a more gradual and precise control compared to a d-pad, but still moves on the same directional plane: up, down, left, right, and in between. In light of this I think the choice to put a slider in lieu of a joystick makes sense because of size and functional restrictions.
As for the four minutes it takes to get into a race with Ridge Racer, that's only if you're booting fresh (which nobody does). Any sensible person would just set the game on standby, and then it's about half a minute to get into a race. Compare the superb, arcade drifting and beautiful graphics to Mario Kart's N64-era gameplay and graphics (we've all played it before, seriously), it all becomes a matter of choice: drifting beauty or wacky old-school fun. I don't see how you came to the conclusion that the faster loading times (with incomparable facts, no less) makes Mario Kart better than Ridge Racer.
Hang on a sec, there's something you forgot to mention. There's a void where serious DS racing games should be. Heck, Mario Kart is the only decent racing game on the system. IGN doesn't even have a section for DS racing games on their review section. Fans of racing games would go for the PSP, no doubt.
You mentioned Tetris: it's totally old-school. There's better, more innovative ways to use the DS.
Anyways, why would I want to burn my $300 investment in the gaming industry when Loco Roco, Silent Hill Origins, Work Time Fun, Bounty Hounds, Every Extend Extra, and Ace Combat are coming out for it? I'd need to see more _serious_ games for my DS to come out before I do. Let's face it: I can't be Solid Snake, a Navy Seal, Kobe Bryant (that's right, there's also a lack of good sports games on the DS), or the Godfather on the DS. To date, the only decent FPS on any portable gaming system is Metroid. Heck, outside of Jump Super Stars there isn't a decent fighting game on it (don't even talk about Guilty Gear, the PSP version is infinitely better; Jump Super Stars is lame when there's nobody to play against).
Now I'll burn my PSP when you get some decent third party (read: not by Nintendo, nothing to do with Mario) racing, sports, fighting, and other 'serious' games for my DS.
Diahrrea Man @ Sep 4th 2006 8:20PM
Hey, azusa, I think you're at the WRONG SITE. Read the browser: dsfanboy.com. You don't belong here. Just cause you have a DS doesn't automatically make you a fanboy. Instead, go to pspfanboy cause that's what YOU ARE. Thank you. Oh! And by the way, that video shows the psp for what it is: an overstuffed portable. Look at the sales charts. The DS owns, period.
nugget @ Sep 4th 2006 8:42PM
I hate this fanboy BS... I don't go around saying all this crap in real life so why do it on the web? I feel that you play what you like, I'll play what I like, and if they have some of the same things, such as I like Metroid, and you like Metroid then we can get together and have fun. But this crap about which is better is pointless they each have their own strenghts and weaknesses.
For instance the DS has some great pick up and play games, quite a few I think, and very short load times if any. While it does lack the "maturity" of games that PSP fanboys rant about. However maturity is in what one person belives it is. I do not think the GTA series is mature, I think it is childish and should not be made, but that is just me. I know other people do like it so I let them have their own and let them play it. Also the DS is not that All in One Killer System like the PSP. Although it does have features that can make it like that. However I did not get a DS to play music or watch videos, I got it for games, plain and simple.
The PSP has great things for it too. The All in one aspect is nice, and sometimes I would not mind it for the DS. It does have good games, but not many that I would want to play. As for its weaknesses the load times are down right horid. Plus the media formats that it has are pointless and stupid. Sony's memory stick is a rip off and they should have stuck with something that more people use on a daily basis for their cameras and other devices. The only reason that was stuck on the PSP was to get the sales of the memory stick up because it was a failing media. The UMD disks and drive are pointless because it is slow and makes for very long load times. I do not get a handheld system to wait around for it to load. If I can load a game for the PSP then pop out my DS and play a few quick rounds of Polarium that is too long. Another format from sony is stupid too. Look at how they go over, Betamax anyone?
So stop all your pointless bitching at each other and play your god damn games I'm tired of this fanboy war over every console and handheld.
azusa- @ Sep 4th 2006 9:18PM
Hey Diahrrea Man, what's wrong? Got no rebuttal? Don't cop out and tell me to get lost. I love the DS just as much as the PSP, which I might not have made clear, so I have just as much right to post here as I do on PSP Fanboy.
Why not tell the same thing you said to me to Kyle over there, since this site obviously is not "ignorantmiddle-schoolkids.com"
Just because (and I am in no position nor do I desire to disagree, I was wooed to the DS) the DS is more popular doesn't mean that you should bash the PSP.
Since when did this site become "DS Fanboy: dedicated to hating on the PSP"? (AFAIK it sure as hell ain't psphater.com) The folks at PSPfanboy.com are poking fun at the presence of ignorant fanboys, and the image it gives all of them. Then here goes DS Fanboy taking the youtube vid and saying (and I quote) "Are DS Fanboys better?"
I don't know what's more ignorant: a community who shuns the retarded fanboy image and makes fun of such poor examples in good humour, or a group of pseudo-journalists who constantly take posts from PSP Fanboy and turn it into a fanboy war and the fanboys who contradict themselves.
"I hate PSP fanboys!...
The PSP is good, which I clearly state and I don't want war going on...
anyay enough said anyone who has a psp should burn it and post the video up on youtube..."
I merely sought to point out the fact that Kyle up there had debatable points (fast loading times =/= better game) and insensible demands (like I said, why burn $300 of technology, especially when good titles are on the horizon?).
I made some good points (no good sports fighting or racing games on DS outside of the exceptional ones mentioned, no point in burning technology) and you have NO RIGHT to tell me off without giving me at least a counterargument.
MrD @ Sep 4th 2006 9:31PM
I'm a "mature gamer," and I'm not a big fan of the PSP. That could change if they get alot of awesome games for it, but the only thing I would buy for it now is Valkyrie Profile.
MrD @ Sep 4th 2006 10:06PM
"It has wire-less connection to battle with other PSPs. If you don't want to battle, you can just play a one-player-game by yourself, too."
Guess what, genius: The DS can too.
Marc @ Sep 4th 2006 11:35PM
Well said nugget, you deserve a star for saying what no one else (including me) realizes. DS fanboy staff, make it happen!
"The only good ignorant fanboy is a DEAD ignorant fanboy. This applies to all things."
Uhh, you *do* know what site your on, right?
nugget @ Sep 5th 2006 12:49AM
Kyle or Azusa or whoever you are chill out. First off if you are stupid enough to listen to a radical fanboy and burn your PSP you deserve it. Second off you need to know that this is DS fanboy website and most of us here like the DS more than the PSP. Not all, and I can not speak for everyone.
The one thing I did want to add was I don't own a PSP, but I have friends who do, and I've played around 10 to 12 hours on a PSP between testing games at our game store and with my friends. So I have an understanding of the PSP, not a great one, but an understanding. If I owned one I could probably come up with some great points about the PSP, but I don't so I don't talk about it often except when radical fanboys, you sure do sound like one, bring up on sided arguments about the DS and claim how the PSP blows it out of the water. And as for your loading time example what about from a straight boot on the game? I don't know about you but I do have to swich games and leaving it on standby will kill the battery so on a car ride I like to turn off my DS. I've never caculated the time but from my friends complaining about the load time, for Ridge Racer I think it was, (I'm not postive though) I'd say that the DS definatly wins there. I can be up and running a game in around 1 minute. Of course it depends on the person too, I like to have it go straight to the DS game in the slot instead of ask, so for some people it will be diffrent. And as far as standby I can be in a game in 10 seconds.
If the PSP comes out with the killer app for me then I'll buy it but until then I'm gonna stick with my DS.
Please stop ranting how good the PSP is on a DS fanboy website, it will only fan the flames and I hate that. I like it when each site can just get along by themselves and have their games and play them too.
azusa- @ Sep 5th 2006 2:21PM
For the record, nugget, I'm not trying to prove the PSP's superiority, but instead exposing the equal amount of ignorance exists in certain DS fanboys. Granted we all like the DS, and some like it OVER the PSP. I won't argue with that, it's opinion which is justified in its own right.
However, I don't understand why this common interest of ours must manifest itself in a constant bashing of 'competeting' consoles.
Surely you've all got the brains to know that just because you like one system more gives you no right to declare other systems inferior or stupid, especially when they are completely different products with different targets and highlights.
I'm sure that I didn't say Mario Kart was worse than Ridge Racer, I'm sure that I didn't state the PSP's load times were even comparable to the DS's. I said that load times for Ridge Racer are blown out of proportion, and Ridge Racer and Mario Kart have different appeals which leave the decision of which was better as a matter of opinion.
Now, one-sided arguments. 'Mario Kart vs. Ridge Racer' was not one-sided. 'Innovation vs. Power' is not one-sided. 'Serious vs Fun' games IS a bit one-sided. It's the truth; you don't get games of those genres on the DS simply because graphical accuracy and immersion has definitely become part of that genre's appeal. Any kind of accurate simulation is not possible on the DS simply because of its lack of power. Please note, however, that the DS makes up for it with its innovative, completely untouchable (pardon the pun) stylus control scheme. The touch pad turns everything around. Developers wind up designing games AROUND the touch pad, using tactile control in such novel ways. Where else can you be a surgeon, cheerleader, or link-between-worlds?
Anyways, back to the point. I've only defended the merits of the PSP against immoral, over-blown statements and accusations. I'm trying to show that DS fanboys are ignorant too. Fail to realize this and you ARE one of the ignorant fanboys that PSP Fanboy frowned upon in its recent posts.
sublimal @ Sep 5th 2006 7:57AM
May I contribute to the DS vs PSP debate, my point is very valid:
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
Kefka @ Sep 5th 2006 5:06AM
GASP! People with differing opinions! What is this world coming to?
I was hoping people wouldn't bother getting into the lame "serious" arguments, but ah well...
This video WAS meant to be taking the piss out of the PSP, wasn't it? I mean, honestly... it's either some well made and somewhat subtle DS-fanboyism, or some really shockingly bad and ignorant PSP-fanboyism...
Someone please clarify this for me, because I'm genuinely starting to wonder. :P
As for my side of the fanboy fence - DS all the way. I'll take an innovative system with great games above a mediocre convergent device with a few good games, regardless of a kiddy image. I don't know anyone with a PSP who hasn't resorted to hacking the crap out of it in order to get some decent gaming.
Enjoy your overpriced status symbol, PSP-fanboys - we'll be too busy faving fun to notice ;)
*couldn't resist a little fanboy rant :P*
Faar @ Sep 5th 2006 6:57AM
To whomever made that silly video: stop being such an insecure git. Your PSP won't love you back for you rushing up to its defense like that - however ineptly - because it's just a piece of plastic.
Instead just enjoy what you got and don't waste your time on stupid, pointless and not least laughably pathetic masturbatory exercises like the one I just witnessed. The PSP is great no doubt about it (at least in white so the smudges don't show), but again: it's just a piece of plastic. Not the second coming of jesus christ.
Dave @ Sep 5th 2006 7:10AM
I think I just got sick in my mouth a lil...
toffy @ Sep 7th 2006 8:37AM
Make love not war.
I´m familiar with both Ds and Psp,I haven´t played many (got the lite recently) and even games to the psp, and I owned a Ds phat for some months now though I prefer the Ds to the Psp, I do not hate psp.
I came from Algarve (Portugal) a few days ago and my cousin had a Psp, I played for a little bit and I changed to my Ds again, and my cousin after meeting Advance Wars didn´t touch the psp for a few days.
Do I hate PSp? Hell no, I was amazed with the screen, ok so the loading times are a "little" scary but hey... We are young, we can afford to wait a little bit for some good graphics.
What I am trying to say is:
Nothing, but i mean NOTHING is perfect, be happy with what you like.
You prefer blue? Buy blue. Or do you prefer red, or green?
Don't despise people who don't like the same colour has you do.
oh and...
Anyone here rocks at Mario kart online?
I keep meeting players who doesn´t even know the existence of turbo slides. Help I have to many victories and few looses :D
SuicideNinja @ Sep 5th 2006 12:57PM
From what I've noticed, DS fanboys tend to argue games while PSP fanboys argue...whatever sounds good at the time. They've only been able to talk positively about games recently (I still haven't played anything too compelling).
I've got both and at this point, I just don't think it matters. Whichever one has the game of the month. LOL
Matt @ Sep 5th 2006 1:39PM
DSFanboy hosts the first annual official Troll Feeding Compo! Get your tickets today!
azusa- @ Sep 5th 2006 2:33PM
Kefka: hey, if someone bought a PSP giga or core pack and a 2 GB memory stick, all he has to do is downgrade and run devhook. Then it's not only emulators and roms, but holy crap free PSP games. No wonder most of my PSP owning friends hacked theirs.
But you make it sound like the PSP has very few good games on it. That's just if you don't like the games put out on it. As I said before, racing and sports nuts will tend to gravitate towards the PSP.
Kruus @ Sep 6th 2006 5:02PM
I think I'm going to enter this contest; I've got a good idea, too.
rwiggum @ Sep 5th 2006 7:42PM
you guys, the video had a point.
the PSP DOES have a lot of useless features...
I guess they win!
*plays more trauma center*
Kefka @ Sep 5th 2006 9:54PM
azusa - that's what i mean... PSP owners hack their PSP because there isn't really a very good range of good PSP games.
"But you make it sound like the PSP has very few good games on it. That's just if you don't like the games put out on it."
That's exactly what I mean - If you're discussing the merits of a device, i dont feel you should include things that require you to illegally modify[1] the device.
Two things irk my about the PSP:
1) It's a convergent device. It has media playing and movie playing and whatever capabilities as well as gaming... Like most convergent devices, it does all these things "OK" rather than doing and of them "Brilliantly". Look at UMDs - they've all but failed already.
2) The PSP does nothing new. It's exactly what the acronym says - PlayStation Portable. All the PSP games ive played have been stripped down versions of games which could be done the same or better on any other console. Libery City Stories is great, but what sets it apart from the PS/PS2 GTA games? Ditto MGS, Tekken: DR, etc. Loco Roco is the only innovative game I've seen which seems more suited to the PSP than a console, and it does so by not relying on the system's superior processing power.
This is why I love my DS - there are lots of great innovative games which couldn't be done as well on any other system due to the design of the DS. These games may not appeal to you, but they do appeal to me. I'll take innovative gameplay over graphics and non-gaming features any day.
Anyhow, hopefully that was a slightly more level-headed rant than the others in this thread.
[1] By this i mean "do things it wasn't intended to do out of the box", regardless of how you hack/mod your PSP.
Kefka @ Sep 5th 2006 9:59PM
Hrm, couple of typos in that last post... should proof read things a little better.
Anyhow, one final point going back to the topic of the thread:
Do we really NEED a rebuttal video? I mean, in all honesty, that video does more to make the PSP / PSP-fanboys look lame than anything we could produce.
nugget @ Sep 5th 2006 10:26PM
Azusa I hope you were not implying in the last statment that I was a Fanboy. I hardly consider myself a fanboy. I can see the merits of the PSP, and I can see the disadvantages of the DS. I try to keep a level head about all consoles and never underestimate any console. I've played many hours on all five current gen (I include handhelds). I do go to DS fanboy but that is because I own a DS and wish to stay up on the latest games and info... You need to realize though that the fanboys you speak of are like radical psychos. Don't agitate fanboys on their own webstie and you should be fine. Me you can say all the BS about any system and I'll be fine because I still play my games and I am fine with what ever you wish to say.
I wish I had my DS though, I killed my L-button playing MPH too much... I hope Nintendo gets it back to me soon, I'm going crazy without it here.
David @ Sep 5th 2006 11:25PM
just to quote from PSP fanboy site reply
31. LOL I watched this video, and I was thinking "This has to be a joke." So I go to Google and type in his username from YouTube and this site comes up: http://answers.yahoo.com/my/profile?show=AA12385419
Look at the last three questions. Apparently, he got his PSP no less than six days ago, and he is so excited about it (despite not being able to figure out how to use all those crazy features he loves so much without the help of some people on Yahoo! Answers) that he made a video within three days of getting it and put it up on YouTube. I love the Internet.
Posted at 10:29PM on Sep 4th 2006 by AssemblyLineHuman 0 stars
ill trooper @ Sep 5th 2006 11:45PM
OH GOD, the spelling errors and FONT in that video are hurting my EYES...
azusa- @ Sep 5th 2006 11:55PM
Kefka: Don't worry, the message shines through. :)
Point one is solid (I often find myself using this argument against rabid PSP fanboys). It does nothing excellent, as a convergent device. UMD films are being phased out. But convergence can be a plus, depending on the user's needs. People either go out with bags or without, and it makes sense for a guy who wears a bag all the time to buy separate devices for media playback and gaming. Those who don't carry bags or have no room in said bags can make use of such a device's extra features and leave the dedicated hardware at home. For people waiting for the true convergence device, the PSP remains as a stepping stone - albeit a stepping stone with gaming functions to boot. It's a great bonus if you've already got a PSP, otherwise its lackluster multimedia functions aren't such a big draw.
About UMDs specifically: UMD sales skyrocketed when the official price point was reduced to about $9 in Japan. If that were the case from the beginning, it may be a different story for the UMD's current terrible streak. Just a tidbit that brings speculation...
Now, I think that most PSP games are also essentially watered-down ports of console games. However, it is also its appeal: instead of having to play your favourite games exclusively at home, you can take it anywhere. I think that its features and hardware are designed completely around this concept, hence the unwieldy UMD optical drive and system specs comparable to the PS2.
It makes sense that game developers have taken this concept to heart, making games that take advantage of the PSP's graphical capabilities at the expense of either playability, originality, or portability.
It is certainly not a perfect concept, further proven by its annoying load times, clumsy controls and overall lower popularity. However, it is using its strengths the only way possible. There is no touch screen, no innovative controls on it, therefore the PSP will have inherently less innovative games.
nugget: I was addressing the readers as a whole, not just you. I'm glad that both PSP and DS communities have sane fans like you and Kefka. As for your in-repair DS, I've got a solution. GET A BLACK DS LITE!
(Har har, black + lite lol)
gil @ Sep 6th 2006 6:41PM
hahahahhahahahahaaha... and might i add, lol.
Gave, your comment (http://nintendo.joystiq.com/2006/09/04/are-ds-fanboys-better/#c2029999) pwns.
twinsanityntranced @ Mar 2nd 2007 1:15AM
I find it amusing that DS fanboys first say
"Media doesnt matter it's games!" because the DS has no other features besides games so they say games matter because they were shafted
but then again theyre being hypocritical if the positions were switched DS fanboys would say DS is better because it has media
this is pretty obvious as DS fanboys say that DS is better than a PSP and cheaper (wich it isnt)
with addon's like DS browser and media cart.
and DS fanboys dont fucking bother with the sales figures because in the US the PSP sold more than DS
the PSP is only 11 million behind DS worldwide with sales, and i am someone that has both and knows that sales dont change a fucking thing about the console's quality....